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Carl (203.184.63.81) 
Thanks for this - one small problem for me. 
 
Under step 7 - I have no checkbox for "allow Ethernet clients" 
 
Would this be a OS issue? I am running 10.5.8 
 
Thanks 
 
Carl

Thursday, July 22, 2010, 20:21:18

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (24.99.192.150) 
It's not an OS issue if you are running 10.5.8. There are two possibilities. First, recheck the first drop-down box to make sure you selected "Join a wireless network" and not one of the other four choices. 
 
If you got that right the first time (and I suspect you did), check the version of your AirPort Utility (menu/Airport Utility/About AirPort Utility); you should be running 5.5.1. Update if you are behind a version or two or three. 
 
If neither of those things fix the issue, let me know. Good luck.

Friday, July 23, 2010, 07:28:37

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
I've got the same problem as Carl - no check box "Allow Ethernet clients" at step 7. I'm running Mac OS X 10.6.4 - Airport Utility 5.5.1 - AirPort Extreme f/w V7.5.1 - AirPort Express f/w V6.3. I bought the Extreme just for this facility so I'm down £130 as of this time! 

 

Thanks

Friday, July 23, 2010, 16:13:01

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (24.99.192.150) 
Okay. Check three more things.  
 
First, if you are not using an AirPort Extreme base station to create an 802.11n (rather than "g" network), the "Allow Ethernet clients" box will not show up. If this is the case for you (i.e. your base station is creating an 802.11g network), you need to select "Extend a wireless network" in Step 7 rather than "Join a wireless network." Doing this will give you the "Allow Ethernet clients" checkbox and allow you to use the AirPort Express as a bridge. But you will lose a little bandwidth capability across the bridge.  
 
Second, if the above comment does not address your problem, open AirPort Utility again. Select your base station. At the top of the window you will see a globe-shaped icon labeled "Internet." Click it. Click the tab "Internet Connection" if it is not already selected. In this window you will see two drop-down boxes. On the first, "Connect Using", select the "Ethernet" choice. On the second, "Connection Sharing", select "Off (Bridge Mode)".  
 
Finally, click the "Advanced" icon at the top of the window. Select the IPv6 tab. In the drop-down box in this window, "IPv6 mode", make sure the "Local-link only" choice is selected.  
 
If you made any updates, click "Update." After the base station has restarted, reset your AirPort Express to its factory settings, start it back up and try again. Hope this helps.

Friday, July 23, 2010, 18:49:54

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
First, the choices for Radio Mode in Wireless settings on the AP Extreme are Automatic or 802.11a/n - 802.11b/g or 802.11a - 802.11b/g. So it doesn't appear that I can "force" 802.11n but I have selected the 2nd alternative. 
Second, the AP Express Wireless Mode in Wireless settings doesn't have the "Extend a wireless network" setting. It offers "Create a wireless network" or "Participate in a WDS network" or "Join a wireless network" or "Off". Selecting "Participate in a WDS network" doesn't offer "Allow Ethernet clients". 
 
So, try second suggestion: if I select "Off (Bridge mode)" the DHCP & NAT facilities are no longer available and I can't access the Internet from within my local network. 
 
It looks like I've wasted £130 as I could do all the same with my old Netgear router!

Saturday, July 24, 2010, 07:12:44

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (24.99.192.150) 
You should not have selected the second alternative for radio mode as it will not broadcast an 802.11n signal at all. Choose the first.

Saturday, July 24, 2010, 08:05:31

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
I'd be interested to know what F/W versions the AP Extreme & Express you're using are at. I have a suspicion that Apple may have plugged this loop-hole in the latest versions. Nothing will induce these 2 devices to act in the way you describe despite trying many permutations & combinations of settings.  
 
One thing I have noticed is that the wireless link between them has fallen back to 802.11b/g presumably because the signal path is less than ideal so they are not able to communicate at 802.11n despite the Automatic setting in Radio mode.  
 
The fact that some setting options that I'm being offered are different from what you describe also makes me suspicious that things have changed unless the Airport Utility is adaptive to local circumstances.  
 
Pity. I shall continue to use the AP Extreme but am disappointed that it isn't able to do what you describe and I want!  
 
Thanks for your help. I wonder how Carl got on?  
 
Cheers

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 04:56:52

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
... ah! I see you're running V7.4.2 on both devices. I'm running 7.5.1 on the Extreme & 6.3 on the Express. I wonder why Airport Utility doesn't automatically point out the availability of later f/w for the Express when it's launched? 
 
I'll try downloading the latest and updating ...

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 05:13:38

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
Hmmm... I'm beginning to think that my AP Express is an old version not capable of 802.11n but I only bought it recently. Maybe I've been sold a pup! Do you know how to identify the 802.11n capable version? 
 
Mutter, mutter...

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 05:59:33

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Smiffy: I am actually on holiday right now and using an older (non-802.11n) AirPort Express to give me a network at the beach condo. I checked it, and it is running 6.3 as yours is. When I tell the AirPort Utility to update it, it says no updates are available for the device (in other words, 6.3 is as high as it can go, but we know there are later firmware versions). So I suspect you are right: it looks as if you may have been sold an old version of the device.

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 09:40:41

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smiffy (109.205.155.144) 
I hope you have a good holiday and my apologies for disturbing your relaxation. I've ordered a "new" AP Express from Apple. I'll let you know how I get on. :-) 
 
Cheers

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 17:44:50

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Please do. You can also email me directly via the "Contact" link at the bottom of the "About" page to the site. Good luck.

Sunday, July 25, 2010, 22:29:11

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Paul Bary (76.120.88.102) 
Thanks for this wonderfully useful article ... everything went exactly as you outlined. I'm  
using this setup to connect the wired nodes in my home office to my AP Extreme base station...I have a separate SSID for this 5GHz wireless backbone. I would like to add a 2nd AP Express to extend the Extreme's 2.4GHZ network to get better coverage on the upper floor for 2.4GHz clients. Would I be correct in assuming that adding this 2nd Express to the 2.4 GHZ network in Extend Network mode wouldn't effect performance on my 5GHz network? My thought is that since the two networks appear to be totally separate due to  
different SSID's that the configuration settings on one should not bleed over to the other.  
Hope I'm not guilty of thread drift <g>  
 
Paul

Saturday, July 31, 2010, 18:17:08

 

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Based on your question, I'm assuming that you have the newest AirPort Extreme that creates a dual-band WiFi network, one operating on the 5 GHz spectrum (802.11n) and the other on the 2.4 GHz spectrum (802.11g). If I'm right about this, then you are correct, extending the 2.4 GHz network will not affect the performance of the 5 GHz network. Obviously, overall network speed will be limited by the bandwidth you have feeding it, but doing what you propose will not have any impact on the internal speed of the 5 GHz network.  
 
You can make sure that your 5 GHz network does not get dragged down by someone joining it using an older machine that is only 802.11g capable by making sure that you select the "802.11n only (5 GHz)" option in the "Radio Mode" drop-down box under the "Wireless" tab (see an example in Step 2, above, since this is how I set up my own network).  
 
Glad this post was helpful for you.

Saturday, July 31, 2010, 18:53:51

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BinBinTriAngel (131.227.159.39) 
i have a problem, i am living in a uni room and connect to uni ethernet.  
 
i have a 5 ports switch link to uni socket, 3 wired port to my windows machine 3, a wired port to airport.  
 
i set my airport express as bridge. i can make my mscbook and ipad share the wireless internet for about 40 minutes (or less) then all my internet is down  
even the windows machine can not connect to internet. i have to unplug the wire to the uni socket, disconnect airport and reconnect to the uni socket without the airport, then i will get internet again in my windows....... i could set up airport again but after a certain time, it is in that loop again  
 
any ideas  
 
can i just turn the wired network into wirless AP???  
 
many thanks in advance

Monday, August 02, 2010, 05:22:12

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png http://www.tireddonkey.com (24.99.192.150) 
I can't say for sure why you keep losing contact with your Internet Service Provider (ISP), but I suspect the primary problem is this: your "switch" does not assign IP addresses and because of this, you wind up with IP address conflicts that eventually bring your system down. You can likely solve this in one of two ways:  
 
(1) plug you internet cable directly into you AirPort Express and set it to "Create a Wireless Network" rather than act as a bridge (make sure you password protect it). Then connect all your devices wirelessly rather than with Ethernet.  
 
(2) (the better solution) Get an AirPort Extreme Base Station (or another brand that has both a WAN port and Ethernet ports). Then plug your Ethernet cable from your ISP into the WAN port of the AirPort Extreme and connect your switch to one of the Ethernet ports on the base station.  
 
By doing either of these things, your ISP will see a consistent device in the first stage of your network, and things should settle down. Good luck.

Monday, August 02, 2010, 07:33:15

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eric (17.107.87.216) 
Can I use 2 AirPort Extreme Base Station (with modem and antenna port) 
M8799LL/A - use one as a router and the other as a wireless bridge and connect Ethernet to it to make my blu ray player stream netflix??

Monday, August 23, 2010, 13:38:36

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (64.238.96.125) 
Yes, but the setup is a little different (and a little more complicated). Integrate the directions here (
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=AirPortUtility/5.1/en/ap2045.html) with the directions in this post and you will be able to get it working quickly.

Monday, August 23, 2010, 14:55:12

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eric (17.107.87.216) 
Please advise the link you provided says this !  
 
Document not found  
 
The article you're looking for could not be found. Please start over, search Apple's Knowledge Base, or visit the Discussion area.  
 
The Knowledge Base contains technical information for Apple Products. Apple's Discussion Forum area allows you to search previous customer questions and answers, or post a new question which may be answered by other Apple customers, or Apple Representatives.

Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 16:54:59

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Sorry about that, Eric. The URL is correct, but I think embedding it in other text somehow messed it up. Try it below, and if that doesn't work directly, just select the URL, copy it, paste it into your browser and hit "return."  
 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=AirPortUtility/5.1/en/ap2045.html  
 
Hope that works for you.

Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 17:50:38

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Ken (70.132.2.58) 
Thanks so much for this. Spent two hours with Apple tech support trying to accomplish this to no avail. Found this post and got it working in five minutes.

Friday, September 03, 2010, 14:05:41

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Ian (66.162.238.189) 
Can an AirPort Express be used as the base station in this scenario? I would like to create a setup very similar to your Netflix-streaming Roku example, with the difference being AirPort Express #1 providing the wireless network and AirPort Express #2 acting as a Proxy Station to connect my Blu-Ray player using ethernet to stream Netflix.  
 
Assuming this works, Will the second AP Express still be able to use AirTunes to stream music to my stereo?

Friday, September 10, 2010, 13:37:37

 

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The answer is "yes" to the first question: you can set this up using two AirPort Express units rather than one AirPort Extreme and one AirPort Express.  
 
The answer to your second question is "I think so." There is no reason why AirTunes wouldn't continue to work when its AirPort Express is operating in proxySTA mode, but I can't find the capability documented anywhere. If you decide to try it and it works, please confirm.

Friday, September 10, 2010, 17:17:17

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Ian (66.162.238.189) 
Everything works! Set it up over the weekend with little fuss. AirTunes is working great (just had to upgrade to iTunes 10 on Dad's computer, iTunes 9 didn't want to connect to the airport for some reason). He's enjoying the iPod touch control of the speakers out on the deck, and my wife and I finally get Netflix instant streaming back.

Monday, September 13, 2010, 09:18:15

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Congratulations and thanks for the update. Very glad to know it works for sure.

Monday, September 13, 2010, 10:22:55

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MidwestHeadcheese (68.118.159.48) 
I haven't hooked up the roku box yet, but thank you for getting me this far. I'll read the other comments and some of your other posts too. We're updating most household electronics late this fall and next Jan or Feb with a lot of Mac stuff and digital toys. So I don't have so many diverse support issues we are staying on the same Mac page so to speak. I won't rant on cable companies to much, but, like your favorite subject regarding the tax codes about the only way to take on your cable company is with your feet. So we did last Monday by getting rid of both digital boxes, remotes and an old modem, and completely upgraded the connection speed. Briefly,,,, it took getting bumped up the sales slug chain to some differently enabled kind of specialist sales slug for the last several pitches over the phone for 5-10 minutes but now we are internet only. (Right now, that is the last thing the cable providers want, other than totally gone). Of course there is more as anyone that has dealt with ISP providers can attest to, but the lesson is these ISP are not really that into their core business of maintaining the pipes, but rather selling a cornucopia or bushel basket of needless spam like crap, (i.e. useless packages that somehow, miraculously, come out to less than month to month cost no contract people like ourselves now pay).  
Related article to similar cutting the cable and networking subjects in today's nyt front page.  
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/business/25netflix.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper > Thanksgiving day, and thank you again for the airport express functionality trick.  
MH.

Thursday, November 25, 2010, 18:14:13

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pacanug (67.84.200.156) 
Will the process change at all if I have an Airport Express in "extend a wireless network" mode between my Airport Extreme Base Station the Airport Express I'll be using as an ethernet bridge?

Thursday, December 02, 2010, 16:49:50

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (24.99.233.152) 
Sorry for the delay in responding, Pacanug. The answer, unfortunately, is that I don't know. I assume you are suggesting that you would like to create an Ethernet bridge to a distant AirPort Express by using an additional AirPort Express to boost the signal somewhere in the middle. If this is an accurate assumption, I don't think it will work because the "bridging" function appears designed to be used with only two devices, one on each end. Having said that, I've never tried it, and I'd be interested to know your experience. If you are going to give it a shot, the only way it might work is if the AirPort Express at the end of the chain were bridged to the AirPort Express in the middle. Good luck and let us know how it comes out.

Sunday, December 05, 2010, 10:59:53

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Gary Peterson (70.113.108.96) 
Thanks for this information. The scenario you describe in this article is exactly what I'm trying to do. I need a wireless ethernet bridge for my DVR in the living room, but it seems like a lot of the devices out there have problems with Apple Wi-Fi networks. So was hoping to use an Airport Express for that purpose. But can I use the AX as a wireless bridge for more than one device (i.e., TV, DVR, Blu-Ray player) by using an ethernet hub? You mention that, but I was wondering if there is anything specific I need to know to set that up. Or can I just go get any ethernet hub, plug it in to the AX and thereby give all my A/V devices an wired network connection.

Monday, March 07, 2011, 01:26:15

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Nothing specific. Just run an Ethernet cable from your AX to a powered Ethernet switch (mine goes to a 4-port switch, but you can use six or eight-port switches if that is what you need); all devices attached to the switch will share the wired connection. My only advice on this is to make sure you get an Ethernet "switch" and not just a "hub;" the switch has intelligent routing capabilities you will want. 
On Mar 7, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Echo wrote:

Monday, March 21, 2011, 10:49:08

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Gary Peterson (70.113.108.96) 
One more question. Can I use the method described in this article if my Extreme base station that is creating the wireless network has the radio mode set to 802.11n (b/g compatible) or will it only work if the WiFi network is set on 802.11n only. And if it has to be "n only", does it matter if it is 5GHz or 2.4GHz. Thanks again.

Monday, March 07, 2011, 02:22:16

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
It does not have to be 802.11n-only, but I highly recommend it to avoid having your network slowed down by older equipment joining. If you have older equipment that cannot join an 802.11n network, take a look at my post on Dual-Band Wi-Fi networks or consider getting a newer Airport Extreme that can create both networks itself. If you are running an 802.11n-only network, it will be running at 5 GHz (you have no choice about this). 
On Mar 7, 2011, at 2:23 AM, Echo wrote:

Monday, March 21, 2011, 10:53:30

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Gary Peterson (70.113.108.96) 
We just upgraded to the latest iPhones so I was able to create a "n-only" network, but I do have the option of n running at 2.4 and according to Apple specs I have to choose that if I want my iPhones on the network. At any rate, everything is working great and the ethernet switch works flawlessly too. Thanks so much for creating this article. I was having trouble finding an easy way to extend a wireless network to wired devices and this is the one URL that told me everything I needed.

Monday, March 21, 2011, 19:21:48

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Anthony (75.127.132.26) 
i have a dlkf I have Three Airport Express one is the Main Base station with a cable modem connected to it.  
The other one is setup as the remote station- All on a WDS network. I connected an ethernet cable to the remote station to extended it to another airport express about 100 feet away but the airport express does not pick up- if i take the cable and attach it to a macbook no problem i get internet, But i want to use it wireless. Do i need to select the Third AE to a bridge mode? Any help - If i put the third AE where the others are it is on the wireless network.

Thursday, May 26, 2011, 09:54:41

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Anthony: 
Sorry for the slow response. Unfortunately, you cannot put the third AE on the same network with the set-up you describe; you can, however, use it to create a new network. The AE can do two three non-music-related things: (1) create a wireless network if a broadband source is plugged into its Ethernet port, (2) extend an existing wireless network (in which case the Ethernet port is unused), or (3) act as an Ethernet bridge (what this blog post is about). In the scenario you describe below, you are treating the AE as described in possibility (1) above, and the only way to have it broadcast the input from the Ethernet jack to other computers/devices wirelessly is to have it create a new network. 


While I can't be sure of your exact situation it sounds like you might benefit from an Ethernet-over-powerline system which enables you to use your home wiring as a broadband network. I'll give you an example. In my house one of my children has a room that is too far from my Airport Extreme to get a reliable signal. So I picked up an Ethernet-over-powerline kit from Netgear (Cisco and other manufacturers make them, too). I ran an Ethernet cable from a port on the AX to one of the Netgear adapters and then plugged that in. I plugged the second adapter into a socket in his room, ran an Ethernet cable from it to another AE and had that AE establish a new network for his room. Done. The Ethernet signal travels over the powerlines that are already in the walls of the house almost as if they were CAT 5 cable (the technology is actually not as efficient as CAT 5, but it's pretty damn good). 


I hope this is helpful. 


The Tired Donkey 

Saturday, June 04, 2011, 17:34:22

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TheRealMikeD (208.71.62.29) 
After some trial and error, I was able to make this work. Wanted to share my findings so that others may benefit.  
 
At first, I had the same problem that Carl, smiffy and some others reported. The options specified in the article simply didn't exist in the AirPort Utility. I can confirm that this is due to the AirPort Exress being an older model (not 802.11n compliant). I tried this with my girlfriend's AirPort Express, which I later found out is about 6 years old. Once I found mine (which is only about 1 year old), it worked like a charm.  
 
I can also confirm that I was able to use the AirPort Express to supply multiple devices, through a hub. So, my set up is something like this:  
1) Set up AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express as described in article.  
2) Connect ethernet cable from AirPort Express to hub.  
3) Connect ethernet cable from hub to Blu-Ray player.  
4) Connect another ethernet cable from hub to DirecTV receiver.  
Everything works great.  
 
Hope this helps someone.

Friday, June 03, 2011, 16:36:47

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Thanks, Mike. I'm happy to know this blog is helpful to a Beastie Boy. Word. 

Saturday, June 04, 2011, 17:10:22

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TheRealMikeD (98.151.134.153) 
OK, I feel I must confess that I am not actually the Mike D. from the Beastie Boys, just in case someone was under that impression. In fact, the user name (which I use on many other sites as well) comes from the tongue-in-cheek belief that Mike Diamond stole my "Mike D." nickname.  
 
I used to work for an internet music company that did a bunch of work with the Beasties, and the company's CEO was a former roadie of theirs, so it was conceivable that I might have gotten the opportunity to meet Mr. Diamond and hash out this whole nickname business. But alas, it never came to be. Too bad. Would have been fun.  
 
In any case, thanks for the blog. It's helpful to us all, famous or not.

Saturday, June 04, 2011, 21:58:24

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Thanks for the story. Great stuff. 

Sunday, June 05, 2011, 10:13:58

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Joey (209.65.240.129) 
Does this solution or some variation of it still work when using Internet Connection Sharing on an iMac as the primary wireless broadcast source for the network? Can that be set up as a WDS that the Airport Express could extend and provide an Ethernet bridge to a connected device? Thanks!

Wednesday, July 13, 2011, 14:28:44

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
The short answer is, I don't know. The potential problem is that the Internet Connection Sharing function gives you no control over the source of your WiFi network; it's just on or off. If it is "on" in a way that allows you to extend the network, it might work. So try it and let us know. Here's how I would do it: 
First, the iMac must have a wired Ethernet connection. If you have that, go to System Preferences/Sharing and check the "Internet Sharing" box. Allow the iMac to turn on the AirPort and create a wireless network. Now just follow the steps in this post beginning with Step 6 to try to set up the AirPort Express as a bridge. I'm not even sure the AirPort Express will recognize the network created by the iMac or, if it does, let you connect to it either to extend the network or bridge it, but it might. 
Please let us know what happens.

Thursday, July 14, 2011, 09:42:39

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Lorenzo (82.59.174.97) 
Is it possible to extend the wifi network this way even if the access point is a not an apple extreme (i.e.: a drink adsl modem/wifi)? is it possible to connect a hub/switch to the express lan port to share a has, multifunction printer/scanner and whatever? And still the express works with airplay?  
If in case, which model is allowed or not to do so?

Sunday, August 07, 2011, 08:51:52

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Lorenzo (82.59.174.97) 
i was meaning "dlink adsl modem/wifi", but safari corrected to drink... It would be nice to have a drink adsl modem...

Sunday, August 07, 2011, 09:17:21

 

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Lorenzo: 
I have not tried to bridge a non-Apple router, so I really can't answer your question. Sorry. Having said that, there is no technical reason why it would not work provided that you have sufficient administrative access to the D-Link router to set it up as recommended for an AirPort Extreme. Give it a try and let us know how it comes out. 
As to the other half of your question, once your have the connection bridged, you can connect a hub to the Ethernet port on the AirPort Express and distribute the signal. Anything hooked to the hub will appear on the network as if it is a wired device. I have mine hooked to a hub that supports a Mac Mini, a Roku box and a Tivo. It will work with a networked printer and AirPlay, too. The device you need to buy is simply the most recent version of the AirPort Express. 
The Tired Donkey 
I hope this is helpful. 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Echo wrote:

Monday, August 08, 2011, 10:14:44

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Lorenzo (87.17.223.26) 
Well, thanks for the answer. In the meantime I asked the same question in the Apple forum (
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15868001#15868001), and there I got the answer to the first part of the question. Hope it comes in handy for other readers of this blog too ;)

Monday, August 08, 2011, 19:27:18

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Thanks for posting. 
On Aug 8, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Echo wrote:

Thursday, August 11, 2011, 06:46:40

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Txema (92.105.174.39) 
Thanks for the post, solve my problem reading it...

Sunday, August 07, 2011, 13:37:32

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Glad to be of assistance. 
On Aug 7, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Echo wrote:

Monday, August 08, 2011, 10:15:04

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John B (131.230.177.158) 
I am hoping to extend the range of an IP security camera (Agasio A622W) by attaching it to an Airport Express unit to bridge to a Westell 7500 router/modem. Is this possible or would I have to add something else?  
 
Thank you for this extremely helpful discussion!!

Friday, August 12, 2011, 17:59:01

 

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (64.238.96.125) 
John: The link that Lorenzo shared a few weeks ago  
 
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15868001#15868001),  
 
indicates that you can do this, but I am not convinced it is going to give you a true Ethernet bridge. Give it a shot and let us know how it works.

Wednesday, August 17, 2011, 10:49:19

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Jayphen (60.241.115.132) 
I've set this up exactly as you've described, and whilst it does work, the transfer speeds I'm getting are extremely slow. Copying a file from my iMac (connected via wireless n) to my server (connected via the Express's ethernet port) achieves only 1.9Mb/s sustained… is there anything I can do to speed this up?

Tuesday, September 06, 2011, 05:02:54

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Jayphen (60.241.115.132) 
After some research, I've realised that what you're describing here (proxySTA) is known to be very slow (about 20-25% as fast as the original wifi connection). Wish I'd known before buying the express!

Tuesday, September 06, 2011, 05:32:20

 

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
I'm sorry it's not working well for you, but I think your experience is not typical as my throughput speeds are great (see here:

 

http://www.dsc.net/techtips/airportexpress.html

 

You may want to check for interference or distance from the base station as your speeds will be dependent on signal strength. 
Tuesday, September 06, 2011, 19:10:13

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Jayphen (60.241.115.132) 
What kind of speeds are you getting reading & writing to the device at the end of the chain?  
 
My Express is 3 metres away from my Extreme, so signal strength is no problem.

Tuesday, September 06, 2011, 20:23:33

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Sorry, but my statement was non-technical, and I have never measured read-write speeds in the way you are suggesting. Prior to setting this up as an Ethernet bridge, I was unable to consistently stream standard definition content from Amazon VOD using my Mac Mini's built in AirPort card. After adding the bridge, I can successfully stream HD content from Amazon and NetFlix simultaneously. I have no idea what kind of speed that means, but it works for me. 
On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:24 PM, Echo wrote:

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Japalias (74.67.28.237) 
Thanks, this worked great for my Direct TV, better than the Internet Connection Kit that came from Direct TV!

Sunday, November 20, 2011, 17:16:35

 

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Neil (86.166.166.29) 
Hi  
I have followed the instructions above re the connecting and setting up the express and extreme, I have connected my express to a switch and I can see a network drive connected to the switch under shared places - but I can not communicate with it? any idea what I may be doing wrong. I also have a network printer on the same switch - no communication either.  
 
Neil

Wednesday, November 23, 2011, 17:38:37

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Neil: 
I've have never used this network setup to reach a printer or a networked drive. But there is no reason it should not work. Hopefully someone else will be able to answer your question. 
Tired Donkey 
On Nov 23, 2011, at 5:39 PM, Echo wrote:

Sunday, November 27, 2011, 09:38:27

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MattR (97.102.214.63) 
Hi - will the ethernet bridge option work on an older 802.11g model of the AE? I can't see the bridge option in step 7 but wonder if that will be a problem with the new airport utility firmware.

Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 02:09:26

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Matt: 
Please give me a little more information about your setup. I need to know both what base station you are working with and what AirPort Express you are working with. In other words, by "AE," do you mean AirPort Express or AirPort Extreme Base Station and what is the other piece of equipment? 
Tired Donkey 
On Nov 29, 2011, at 2:10 AM, Echo wrote:

Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 19:21:53

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bobreid (98.246.89.98) 
Thank you for posting this!  
 
I am now getting 10mbps over the Ethernet port on my Express to my Roku where before in a WDS setup I was only getting 2-3mbps...woot!  
 
-b

Sunday, December 04, 2011, 01:29:43

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Andrew (67.180.252.172) 
If I have an 802.11n Airport Extreme Time Machine can it communicate with my much older 802.11g Airport Express? I am trying to use the AX as an extender. I was able to set up just as you suggested but I am not sure I am seeing any difference. I am not getting any increase in bars. Will this only work as a proxySTA? I am not sure my AE broadcasts both 5ghz and 2.4...it is a few years old. Thanks for any clarification you can provide.

Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 01:24:43

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
Andrew: 
Your AirPort Extreme can broadcast both an 802.11n network and an 802.11g network. You can use your AirPort Extreme to extend the 802.11g network, but it will not be able to extend or even join the 802.11n network. Assuming that you do not need to use the Ethernet port on the AirPort Express, you don't need to mess with any of the more difficult settings. Using the AirPort Utility, just tell the AirPort Express to extend the network of the AirPort Extreme. And make sure the 802.11g setting on the AirPort Extreme are set to "Allow this network to be extended." 
Tired Donkey 
On Jan 25, 2012, at 1:25 AM, Echo wrote:

Friday, February 24, 2012, 08:08:22

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (127.0.0.1) 
John: 
Very sorry for the slow response, but I've been out of the country. This should work. Check out the thread in the link beginning with post #4 for settings. Also, start the AirPort Utility and select the AirPort Extreme that is connected to your internet provider. Then make sure the following settings are correct under the "Internet" tab at the top of the window: (1) under the "Internet Connection" sub-tab, make sure "Connection Sharing" is set to "Share a public IP address"; and (2) under the "TCP/IP" sub-tab make sure "Configure IPv4" is set to "Using DHCP". The link is mentioned is here:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=85137 
Tired Donkey 
On Jan 30, 2012, at 4:18 PM, Echo wrote:

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DavidR (76.254.54.166) 
I recently purchased a Time Capsule and already have an Airport Express with only 802.11g capabilities. I can get the AP Express set up to stream music to my stereo, but would like to configure the AP Express' ethernet port so that I can run a cable to my DirecTv box in order to watch TV on my iPad. I tried following the instructions that you gave, but I also do not have the "Allow Ethernet clients" box available. Is it possible to have the configuration I want between the Time Capsule and an older AP Express? Or will I need to purchase a newer AP Express with 802.11n?

Sunday, March 25, 2012, 04:08:09

Description: http://cdn.js-kit.com/images/stars/admin-comment.png The Tired Donkey (64.238.96.125) 
David:  
The new version of AirPort Utility does not have nearly as many options as older version, but it seems to make the Ethernet port "hot" in the standard configuration it offers you. Make sure that you have the Time Capsule set up to generate a dual band 802.11 configuration (b/g/n), and it seems to me it ought to work. You might also check out the information on this page: 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4587?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US; it's not directly on-point, but it may be helpful. Good luck.  
Tired Donkey

Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 09:51:36

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Sean (72.37.171.84) 
I have a Cisco Router in the basement feeding client down there and an Airport express on the main floor for the Wifi.... I have now bridged to a second Airport Express on the second floor office. The office has a Cisco SD2008 8 port gigabit switch connected to the Airport and the whole setup as worked quite well.... however in the past few months I have added an IP Phone (OOMA) and a Lexmark Pro915 network printer... for a total of 5 devices connected to the router but the Office Airport doesn't seem to allow more than 4 to remain conected at a time. Using the Airprot utility I've never seen more than 4 mac addresses in the clients list. Have you heard about any limitation on the number of clients you can have wired to the ProxySTA

Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 14:04:29

 

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